Octopus Tariff - Octopus Go vs Inteligent Octopus

4 comments started 2023-01-30 last 2023-02-10
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#1 GrahamShaul

I am sure that this has been discussed before but I hope that someone with a similar set up can advise.
Currently I am on Octopus GO, we have solar panels, GE 8.2 battery, EO charger, Tesla Model 3.
With this set up I can 'protect' the battery from being drained by the charging car by setting the Cahreg mode to Solar + Grid with Start Time 00:30 End Time 04:30 and Charge Up To set depending on the time of year (ie expected solar generation) The Battery Discharge Mode is Dynamic.
As my current tariff will end mid March I need to decide to move to the current Octopus Go or the 'new' Inteligent Octopus and considering how I manage to protect the battery. I currently usually charge the car once or twice a week and always ensure that I only do that during the 00:30 to 04:30 window to get the cheap rate and also as my battery is set to charge then the battery is not drained. If I went to IO do I just change the start and end to 23:30 05:30? But what about if the intelligence wants to charge the car outside of this time slot? I expect that to drain my battery. So how can I prevent that from happening.
This must have been encountered buy several here?
I am too tempted to keep on the new Go and pay the additional 2p per unit for the priviledge just because if I drained the battery even once that would cost me more to recived than I could have potentially saved on IO
Your advice would be appreciated

#2 THALL

You will need to setup your own automation using various scripting tools. At present there is no automation from givenergy to do this. Or manually pause your battery during any extra hours you may get. But your givenergy battery will recharge during the 6 hours cheap anyway

I have a similar issue, I am considering Agile from April time but still need the car to be charged and don't see a simple way to make sure my GE battery doesn't drain to the car during its charge (whenever that will be) Basically for me how do I make sure my GE charge slots and myenergi charge slots match.

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#3 Zakalwe

If you are only charging once or twice per week then the likelihood is that the car will happily charge in the IO cheap period. Even more so if you just plug it in every night.

Just set the system in Eco mode and set a Timed Charge to coincide with the IO cheap period. I do way more miles than you appear to be doing and am yet to have a problem. On the odd occasion that I get offered "peak" rate times, then I just let the battery drain a bit (for example, if IO offers a charge period starting at 23:00), or manually change the Timed Charge periods (for example if the car is low and I plug it in early in the day).

in reality, if you plug in after 5PM then you will rarely get slots outside the off-peak period. Certainly (again IME) not enough to make house battery drain a consideration.

You aren't doing the mileage to make this a big issue as far as I can see. IO will offer a 6 hour cheap rate, so using a 7.2kW charger you can put roughly 40kWh into the car, which is 80% of a Model 3 SR capacity and half of the latest 82kWh battery on the latest LR/Performance.

IO is totally worth it due to the longer off-peak period than Go. I think that you might be over-thinking the problem.

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#4 ringi

I assume the EV charger is connected to a separate consumer unit. Can you fit the current sensor so it does not measure power going to the EV charger?