Do Smart Tariff Automations Override Inverter Settings?

I am on Octopus Agile and want the system to charge my battery at the cheapest times and discharge at the most expensive peak times. I have linked the account to Octopus through the API and under smart tariff I have automation for standalone battery enable which says it charges cheaply and discharges at peak rates. Do these settings override the settings under the Inverter section around ECO, timed charge, timed discharge and timed export? I had tried previous to set timed charge to 23:00 to 06:00 and timed discharge to 15:00 to 20:00 with ECO and Timed Export switched off, but as on another thread and other users have found, the inverter will not lock in these selections and switched back to ECO mode and/or Timed Export.

Tariff automation takes precedence I believe.

Not sure if tariff automation for agile actually works at the moment, see the other topic about it (updated yesterday I think). There's another way via Octopus R&D Labs I think.

Setting timed charge and discharge at the same time is impossible.

If you want something more complex than the usual scenarios then it may be best to look into running your own automation e.g. GivTCP with home assistant, or python or powershell. There's various topics about that on here.

Thanks - it's not too complicated what I want to do, basically charge when cheap (happy to say that's between fixed times) and discharged when expensive (around peak times). Would presume most on Agile Tariff would be looking at something like that. Whether its "dynamic" in that each day it looks at the tariff and works out the best times, or "dumb" and just between certain times when for the most part electricity is cheaper for charging and more expensive for discharging, I don't really mind. Whatever is easiest to implement,

As you say it seems like the timed charge and discharge doesn't work, and I have set the automation on the Agile Smart Tariff to standalone battery as the GE tech team have suggested. I'm not a coder or IT expert, although I have set up an IFTTT / Alexa routine with Octopus Agile which works - so I can do something simple like that. If there was a simple "how to" or "idiots" guide on the other things you have mentioned (GivTCP, python, powershell) grateful if you could point me in the right direction. Thnks

cgoodfellow depends how much of an "idiot's guide" you need... my Python code is fully commented and available from: www.github.com/salewis38/palm

cgoodfellow I'm looking to do the same, but have found that home assistant seems to be the most intuitive to work with so far, and it's free.