I am coming to the end of my cheap contract and looking for a new tarriff. I am considering Agile octopus. There is plenty technical information on the community board but no practical information of how this works. I understand how to change my system from solar to solar plus grid but don’t understand how I decide which one to use at a particular time of day. How do I know the cost of import.
does Octopus send me information about the price at a particular time of day?
Do I have to watch the price and decide when to change to solar plus grid?
It would be great if someone could produce a guide for people like me who are new to this type of tarriff.
Haven’t a clue.
2 apps are worth buying.
Octopus compare - one of the better ones for comparing different tariffs with your actual usage.
Octopus watch - I like this to make sure your smart meter is working as all smart tariffs simply fall over when the data is not being captured.
Tariffs:
Go & intelligent if you have an EV and charge it at home regularly, these have poor export rates but you’ll never be a net exporter.
Agile, it’s been really good since the start of the year but the price guarantee ended in July so peak has been 40p+ (obviously not a major problem with batteries). It might be good over the winter but it relies on gas prices
The automatic GivEnergy integration with agile isn’t fit for purpose, the prices are too volatile (tomorrow is 1p -30p range). When I was on agile I set the charge times for roughly 4 hours at the cheapest rate on the evening for the next day.
If you import less than you export flux can be useful if you have an export account. You can set the battery to charge to 100% 2am -5am and then forget about anything - your battery remains at 100% through the day and all solar gets exported. 20p import and export or you can manually force discharge during the afternoon peak to make another £150-200 per year.
Octopus launched a new tariff for us last week..
intelligent Flux. Hand over control to octopus and get higher rates for exports (import is also more expensive so it means you have to be a bigger exporter but it’s really so they can use out barriers to instantly boost the grid when needed).
hamilton there's a confirmation bias issue with any app that applies historical usage data to determine the best tariff: anyone not already on a TOU tariff won't be maximising their overnight usage, so the forecast overnight tariff savings will be lower. Similar story the other way with Agile, etc.
hamilton i was reading about Intelligent Octopus Flux (IOF) and it looks interesting, the only catch is that we lose the power to export on demand which i am not sure is a great option as the best ROI is when you can export at peak rates. other than that, this tariff looks amazing
deepanshus we haven’t seen the details yet, they may use your battery for exactly that reason.
*Import/Export rate:
Off-peak (7pm - 4pm): Below Flexible Octopus: 27.1 p/kWh at Current Flexible prices
Peak (4pm - 7pm): Above Flexible Octopus: 36.1 p/kWh at Current Flexible prices