I'm sure that this has been asked before, I am pretty new to this and looking at the best tariff.
I run an EV as well, just wondering if the off peek rates are more frequent and generally around 8,5 pence per kWh or less on Agile outgoing?
I have a 10 kWh battery and solar
Thanks
Robc-165 I am on Agile for import so initially selected Agile Outgoing for export. In our case our solar peak was too early and our batteries too small for that to make much sense.
I was averaging around ten pence for kilowatt hour for export vs the fixed fifteen pence on the Outgoing Fixed product. I switched tariffs and our income from export noticeably increased.
Agile Outgoing may make sense during the summer if your array orientation means that your generation peak is in late afternoon, or if you have enough battery storage to store your generation and export it later in the day - whilst still allowing enough energy to get you through peak and at least to cheaper overnight import. I did hear stories of people getting a pound per kilowatt hour when we had the forty degree heatwave and nearly run out of electricity.
I doubt it ever makes sense to use Agile Outgoing in the winter.
I too am relatively new to Octopus tariffs and I initially selected Agile Outgoing to support my battery and solar set up. My incoming tariff is Cozy Octopus and I am comfortable with that, but once I installed predbat on my HomeAssistant appliance, I realised that Fixed Outgoing makes more sense for me, so I am in the prcess of switching to it.
My rationale behind initially choosing the agile export tariff was that the per unit export price was nice and high during peak periods, but in fact it is only worth exporting for about 3-4 hours per day. With a fixed-price export tariff, there are many more opportunities to export throughput the day and this more than compensates for the lower "peak" export prices.
Robc-165 agree with the points @pwdst makes, unless you have the battery capacity or there really is a big spike in electricity prices, agile outgoing isn’t the best tariff to be on
Have a look at https://energy-stats.uk/octopus-agile-outgoing-export-eastern-england/ where you can see historic import and export rates. Agile outgoing is only just above the 15p figure for the peak period, and usually below during the rest of the day
Robc-165 Agile Outgoing is a pointless tariff. Choose Outgoing Fixed.
You'll get a MAXIMUM period of 3 hours a day on Agile Outgoing where it might be above 15p/unit. In practice that means maybe 8% of the time it'll be above 15p. However if you're also on Agile as an import tariff then those periods will be at peak import rate (and after dark in winter) so you're even more constrained.
On Outgoing Fixed its 15p 24/7/365 which makes managing export easier.
Agile for imports, fixed for exports.
Thanks for your input, I'm currently on their EV tariff for import and outgoing fixed light so getting 8 pence per kWh sent back to the grid.
I think I'll stick with that through the winter as we use less than 10 kWh per day so charging the battery overnight gives us 8.5 per per kWh and it doesn't appear to be affected by the price cap.
Robc-165 can you not change to intelligent octopus go? That gives you a longer cheap window and access to the 15p export tariff - it’s what I have.
Your car or charger have to be compatible though.
Nobody should EVER be on Agile outgoing, you want to be on outgoing fixed
JasonF No, our car is not compatible, hoping that will change in the future,
Thanks
Ah that’s a shame. Might be worth doing the maths on changing to a compatible charger. How long would it take to recoup the spend on the charger for the longer cheap window and better export price?
JasonF or jump over to eon next drive