10pm cutoff

14 comments started 2023-01-31 last 2023-02-01
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#1 naltsta

Last night at 10pm my battery had lots of charge left but I switched to using grid power rather than the battery. I can't see anything in my setting to control this.

Is this part of Eco mode perhaps? Is there any documentation about exactly what Eco mode does?

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#2 cluelesscris

ECO has no time limits. If you have a charge period set it will override eco for the period and then revert to ECO. However, if you have a timed discharge period set it will NOT reviert to ECO at the end of the period (this appears to be a bug). To help you more you should post an image of your flows graph from the portal so we can set whats happening generally and particularly with the SOC of the battey.

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#3 naltsta

cluelesscris

Cheers
At 10pm

Just seen this which does have 10pm as a time but very clearly marked as disabled...

Phone app seems to use the term "dynamic" which doesn't seem to feature on the portal anywhere, but the only other option is "scheduled" so maybe dynamic is what it's called when the schedule is off?..

Is there any way the portal is showing timed discharge as disabled but the inverter has it as on?..

#4 judgepd

You have a reserve set of 100% which means your battery will never discharge below 100%.

#6 THALL

But it looks like it is discharging until 10pm? Odd

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#7 naltsta

judgepd Well its discharging right now so I'm not sure that can be it

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#8 cluelesscris

naltsta Dynamic is ECO on the portal. It looks like you might have a sticky setting which can happen if you use the app to change settings. Go to the portal and the My Inverter settings you have above. Reset to defaults and then set ECO enabled. If you have a split tariff and want to charge overnight during your cheap period set a timed charge with the appropriate period. Hopefully you'll find the 10.00pm boundary has disappeared.

#9 judgepd

A GE system not following settings in the app?....surely not. 😆

I would use the 'reset to defaults' option in the portal and then add whatever settings you want back in again. If you don't have a cheap overnight tariff then the only setting you need on is 'eco' (which is the same as dynamic in the app).

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#10 naltsta

judgepd

Thanks all - today looked like this so apart form the weirdness overnight it worked as I hoped...

Will reset to defaults, make sure Eco is on and try again tonight!

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#11 naltsta

naltsta

Does this look like normal having reverted to default? Reserve 100% Usable 0%

#12 THALL

naltsta Noo you want a lower reserve

From top to bottom most people just need the following
ECO = enabled
timed charge = disabled (unless you have a cheap rate and want to charge from grid)
timed discharge = disabled
time export = disabled
battery options = reserve as low as you are happy with. Most people set 4%

#13 judgepd

No, that top slider should be right at the bottom (or at least lower than it is) and the usable will then show as 96%.

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#14 naltsta

judgepd

20 minutes later (I swear I didn't change anything!) and it looks like this. Has been happily discharging that whole time too...

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#15 Tim

naltsta (Not necessarily an explanation of the behaviour you reported but ...) The App and portal both provide the same controls although, unhelpfully, they may have different names. When you make a change you have to press Submit (in the portal) or Save (in the app). When this is done, you get a response back saying that the change is successful (or not). If successful, the inverter now has the updated value stored in its registers and the Givenergy Cloud has been updated with the new settings.

If you made the change in the app and go to the portal or vice versa, you will likely see that the change doesn't appear to have been made. To see the change in the other system, you have to refresh the page (pull down in the app and the refresh button in browser). From what I can tell, when you submit/save a setting, it is sent to the inverter and only when a confirmation of the change is sent back to the cloud, do you get the Saved/Successful pop up. Refreshing the app/portal re-loads the cloud-stored values.

When you by-pass these control methods by using an automation system such as Home Assistant, the changes will still be made (as long as the correct message gets to the inverter). If the change was made using the cloud API, the situation is the same as when a change is made from the app or portal. However, if making the change by sending a command directly to the inverter (eg MQTT/Givtcp) the cloud doesn't get the updated value until it next reads all inverter registers, which it doesn't seem to do every ten minutes.