Battery In to Battery out from app/portal

9 comments started 2023-05-03 last 2023-05-22
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#1 justpassing

I have had my system up and running for 2 months. Almost exclusively charging battery from PV, and then Battery to Home. 9.5 kW Battery Hybrid 5.0 Gen2

Over that time the battery out to in ratio is 72%. Is this what others are seeing using the portal figures for Battery in Battery out ?

I was expecting this to be one DC to DC charge, and then DC to AC conversion. I have seen a few statements that AC -> Battery -> AC is 85% efficient. I assumed I would see better numbers with the more efficient route of only one AC DC conversion.

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#2 Phil_H

justpassing For April, with PV only charging on 9.5kWh Battery, Hybrid 3.6 Gen 2 I have 159 in and 128 out which is 80%. I have quite a low baseload though (100-150W) and as I understand it the inverter runs pretty inefficiently at that level so I think an overall of 80% is probably reasonable for me. If I ran more of the energy through at 2-3kW then efficiency would be higher.

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#3 Jon-boy

same kit as me (9.5kwh Battery and Gen2 5kw Inv), mine was installed in March and just checked mine for April and I have 169.38kwh in and 145.55kwh out which is 85.9%. For March I had 86.7%. Yours seems a bit low in comparison.

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#4 Phil_H

for this morning midnight to 5am (no PV) I used 1kWh from the battery to provide around 0.66kWh to house consumption so I'm down at 65% for that power level, just to give you an idea of potential losses and that doesn't include what was lost on the way into the battery.

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#5 Rubikcube

For April, 9.5kWh battery, 3.6kW Gen1 hybrid, I have 290 in and 269 out (92.7%). Battery cables run 6C above ambient at 50A.

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#6 justpassing

Jon-boy Yes thanks for the direct comparison. I have more generation here, but for April my numbers were

196 in, 140 out, so 72%. 👎️

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#7 justpassing

Rubikcube How do you measure those ?

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#8 Rubikcube

I use a cooking thermometer to check cable temperatures. You could just use your fingers if you don't have a suitable thermometer.

You need the battery charging or discharging at full rate for 30 minutes to reach temperature.

For a 9.5 battery there are 2 orange cables from the inverter; check the temperature just below the black gland(s). Also check the orange connector to the battery is not hot.

For batteries with a separate breaker, there are 8 points to check. Red and black at inverter outlet, at breaker top, breaker bottom, battery entry.

Only touch the insulated outside of the cable, do not dismantle anything.

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#9 justpassing

@TheDragon (GivEnergy)

This is really beginning to bug me. Tracking for the last 3 months, the Total battery In to Battery out figures, both via the portal and via HA show a pretty steady 71-72% return on what I put in to the battery.
So over 3 months, 476 kW in and only 341kW out. Looking at various other posts, in addition to this thread, then 85% seems to be the expectation. Givenergy helpdesk chat seemed pretty relaxed about 30% losses. " within normal system parameters"as they used to say. I have looked, but there does not seem to be a large pool of electrons around the battery :-) Any suggestions, or once you have done all your other jobs could you have a look :-)
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The last week shoes the same pattern. lot more in than out on HA