Battery degredation

9 comments started 2024-10-28 last 2024-10-28
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#1 Al E.Gator

Curious to find out how others are getting on with their battery degradation now there’s a few years of good use in these batteries. I do about 400 cycles a year or just over 1 a day, and have seen. 6% drop in capacity after 600 cycles to an overall capacity compared to the maximum of 94%. Seems quite high so hopefully it plateaus as at that rate it will reach the warranty at 70% in less than 7 years! Anyone who has their own data, I’m very interested!

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#2 anthonypar

I've done 696 cycles. How are you measuring your degradation, so that I can compare.

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#3 Pete UK

This is mine for my 4x 9.5’s;

The two on the left are “new” (recent replacements). The one on the top RHS is 16 months old at 192Ah. The one on the bottom right is about 6 months old at 197Ah.
“Design” capacity is 186. Although I think they all start at 200Ah in reality.
So my oldest one has lost 4% over 16 months (from the original 200Ah) at 793 cycles (1.33 cycles per day). Charged fully overnight and emptied by timed export every evening before the cheap rate starts.

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#4 Al E.Gator

Pete UK ahh that’s really interesting. You’re running yours exactly as I run mine with the export. I think a lot of it might just be luck of the pack as 2 of my batteries have lost effectively nothing and 2 have lost 6-7%

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#6 Al E.Gator

hoggy Crikey you might be on for a warranty claim before 10 years at that rate! What's that roughly 15% lost after 1500 cycles. Quite significant.

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#7 Al E.Gator

hoggy That does roughly follow what I'm finding so pretty good for consistency. I think from that realistically we can see 3000 ish cycles by time it hits warranty.

#8 hoggy

Having come from a rather old LFP setup previously I was hoping things had moved on a bit longevity wise but it would appear I might be wrong on this one. Warranty sliding scale thing probably means it'll not be worth bothering with by then....you win this round Givenergy!

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#9 Al E.Gator

@"hoggy"#p67044Yes especially given my batteries never get very hot (a killer for LFP) I'd expected to get 5-6000 cycles out of them before hitting 70%, but looks very similar deg to the Powerwalls NMC battery of about 2.5% a year. Bit disappointing really as it rather changes the maths! How are you calculating your degradation? I'm using GivTCP, doing a calibration and seeing the change in remaining capacity compared to design.